The Kpop Girl Group Discussion Thread 4 (2024)

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  • Yesterday at 6:16 PM
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TPurgis said:

they could be mad about D&G racist history...
they could be mad that the top is just damn ugly...

the group has literally worn worse and uglier on stage. either he or the company stans 10 toes deep in their choices or they let fans take the win which won't be good in the long run.

I saw most people praising him and saying he stood out in a good way.

He wore a suit the next day and looked better than the (white) models in the avant garde outfit despite being half a foot shorter than them.
Fans be so boring all the time.

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  • Yesterday at 6:21 PM
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warmguns said:

lmao look at this:

I love the third slide in particular, they're saying they're feeling disconnected from her solo career lol I wonder who's fault that is? Oddatelier can't make Jennie be more personable towards her fans, she did that in the beginning of the career and now clearly she doesn't feel the need to do that anymore. I'm subscribed to her and Seulgi's channel and there's a distinct difference between Jennie's youtube and Seulgi's youtube, and you can't just blame it on her company. Seulgi already showed her apartment and her closet, her vlogs are also more interesting and feel like she's a regular youtuber. Jennie fans want more than what she offers.

it's giving

'cause they're not even staff!

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  • Yesterday at 6:42 PM
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thekikiprint said:

and that’s why everything she does comes across unauthentic to #me.

she knows that SK is her main income source, but her marketing and who she hangs around proves she wants more than to be stuck doing aegyo at 35 years old on variety shows.

she won’t ever fully lean into the west even though i do think she wants to. pissing off koreans will ruin her career. she’s always gonna walk a tight line between both and it’s not sustainable either way. she kinda shot herself in the foot with this tbh

Tbh Jennie definitely does care about her success in Korea. I don’t see her as someone that wants to be famous in the west only.

She has done multiple variety shows that flopped. And she always attends events in Korea. Doing a collab with Zico was very strategic.

Rose and Lisa are the ones that definitely want Western success. They barely try in their home country. And the only time we see them attend events are usually European or American events. The I-land 2 thing was the most I’ve seen Rose participate in something korean

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  • Yesterday at 6:46 PM
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I saw 4 pages of updates and wondered what happened and……. I will just say jennitals is an appropriate name for those people

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  • Yesterday at 6:56 PM
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Damn! They trying to get information on her parents now over some smoking? Her parents have nothing to do with this and She apologized already.

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[enter-talk] I WONDER WHAT ARE THE PROFESSIONS OF JENNIE'S PARENTS

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I won’t pretend I’m not curious but it’s obvious they’re trying to use it to drag her even more. Thankfully the comments clocked them good.

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  • Yesterday at 8:40 PM
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chaelili said:

Damn! They trying to get information on her parents now over some smoking? Her parents have nothing to do with this and She apologized already.

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[enter-talk] I WONDER WHAT ARE THE PROFESSIONS OF JENNIE'S PARENTS

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I won’t pretend I’m not curious but it’s obvious they’re trying to use it to drag her even more. Thankfully the comments clocked them good.

I think what bothers me about all the speculation about Jennie's family is that I'm 99% sure the reason people are so obsessive about it is because she doesn't have a father/father figure. I understand just having morbid curiosity but sometimes it just comes across as misogynistic, like people can't believe Jennie's mom would have her own money.

Jennie herself has already said it's always been her and her mom but for some reason people still make up psychotic theories about who her dad could be. I've seen people claim Jennie's dad is a high-ranking politician, a producer/music executive, and have even seen people accuse Jennie's mom of being a rich man's mistress (based on nothing) because they can't fathom a single mother could be rich or upper middle class on her own.

It's really weird and dumb, and I'm sure if she did have a publicly known father figure, even if people didn't know their jobs they'd probably leave it alone by now.

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  • Yesterday at 8:46 PM
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nasheisms said:

I think what bothers me about all the speculation about Jennie's family is that I'm 99% sure the reason people are so obsessive about it is because she doesn't have a father/father figure. I understand just having morbid curiosity but sometimes it just comes across as misogynistic, like people can't believe Jennie's mom would have her own money.

Jennie herself has already said it's always been her and her mom but for some reason people still make up psychotic theories about who her dad could be. I've seen people claim Jennie's dad is a high-ranking politician, a producer/music executive, and have even seen people accuse Jennie's mom of being a rich man's mistress (based on nothing) because they can't fathom a single mother could be rich or upper middle class on her own.

It's really weird and dumb, and I'm sure if she did have a publicly known father figure, even if people didn't know their jobs they'd probably leave it alone by now.

I think it's more to do with the fact she seemed to be a silver spoon and Korea is very obsessed with luxuries wealth blah blah blah.

We know a lot of rich idols, parents' job, and what her other members' parents do whereas hers is more of a mystery more people want to solve.

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  • Yesterday at 9:23 PM
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  • Yesterday at 9:54 PM
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warmguns said:

lmao look at this:

I love the third slide in particular, they're saying they're feeling disconnected from her solo career lol I wonder whose fault that is? Oddatelier can't make Jennie be more personable towards her fans, she did that in the beginning of the career and now clearly she doesn't feel the need to do that anymore. I'm subscribed to her and Seulgi's channel and there's a distinct difference between Jennie's youtube and Seulgi's youtube, and you can't just blame it on her company. Seulgi already showed her apartment and her closet, her vlogs are also more interesting and feel like she's a regular youtuber. Jennie fans want more than what she offers.

warmguns said:

lmao look at this:

I love the third slide in particular, they're saying they're feeling disconnected from her solo career lol I wonder who's fault that is? Oddatelier can't make Jennie be more personable towards her fans, she did that in the beginning of the career and now clearly she doesn't feel the need to do that anymore. I'm subscribed to her and Seulgi's channel and there's a distinct difference between Jennie's youtube and Seulgi's youtube, and you can't just blame it on her company. Seulgi already showed her apartment and her closet, her vlogs are also more interesting and feel like she's a regular youtuber. Jennie fans want more than what she offers.

Some of these fans are a different kind of crazy wtf.

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  • Today at 1:13 AM
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ChubbyCC said:

Tbh Jennie definitely does care about her success in Korea. I don’t see her as someone that wants to be famous in the west only.

She has done multiple variety shows that flopped. And she always attends events in Korea. Doing a collab with Zico was very strategic.

Rose and Lisa are the ones that definitely want Western success. They barely try in their home country. And the only time we see them attend events are usually European or American events. The I-land 2 thing was the most I’ve seen Rose participate in something korean

Yeah Jennie and Jisoo definitely do want to promote in Korea and they are proud of their nationality. Jennie has done several variety shows and wasn’t her first tv appearance on Lee Hyori’s show after leaving YG. Jisoo doesn’t need to be explained she’s aiming for a Suzy/Yoona idol to top korean actress career. I don’t know why people say this.

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chaelili said:

Damn! They trying to get information on her parents now over some smoking? Her parents have nothing to do with this and She apologized already.

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I won’t pretend I’m not curious but it’s obvious they’re trying to use it to drag her even more. Thankfully the comments clocked them good.

It wasn’t just the smoking it was the blowing smoke in her employees faces while they were working on her glam. Korea is obsessed with victimizing staff and they see that as her having no respect for the people she employs. This could have been a huge scandal and affected her image there without her apology. Not saying I agree with all this btw I think they are being ridiculous as usual.

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What if instead of Jennie it was Lady Gaga?
Do you think she will come out and write a letter of apology like this?
The differences
- She is not a role model for the youth.
-The western people who work with her have a voice to sue or protest inappropriate actions
If they don't, it means they accept this,maybe they are smokers too lol
Then seeing pictures and criticism will be different.

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  • Today at 3:05 AM
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wannayook said:

What if instead of Jennie it was Lady Gaga?
Do you think she will come out and write a letter of apology like this?
The differences
- She is not a role model for the youth.
-The western people who work with her have a voice to sue or protest inappropriate actions
If they don't, it means they accept this,maybe they are smokers too lol
Then seeing pictures and criticism will be different.

Jennie is a KPOP IDOL, she is not a western artist, she was blowing smoke in her mua face, korea has a huge power tripping problem and korean netizens will always side with employees and staff, just look at irene and her scandal.

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ILoveKdramas said:

Jennie is a KPOP IDOL, she is not a western artist, she was blowing smoke in her mua face, korea has a huge power tripping problem and korean netizens will always side with employees and staff, just look at irene and her scandal.

That's what I'm talking about. asian culture and kpop standards are different from Western Culture
One advantage of Kpop is that its songs and artists can reach markets in countries that restrict artistic expression or resist Western culture, like China or Muslim countries. (Although the sound of the music is very western), so these strict rules for being a kpop idol would be difficult to change.

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  • Today at 4:45 AM
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thekikiprint said:

i’m sorry but the constant babying of jennie is insane. the coddling mentality her fans have… she hand picked those people for her company and some even left yg with her… now all of a sudden they’re incompetent because she got caught up? please. she’s 28 years old. has been in the industry since she was a teenager. look at dua lipa who’s the same age as jennie. duas fans literally bullied her for her to improve as a performer and artist and look what happened to her… jensetters need to take notes

Her fans keep projecting into Jn this savage/bad girl persona which is far away from the reality (I don't fully condemn them because she played into it a lot in the past though). They thought she would double down with an IG post or by ignoring it while in reality she run to her team to publish that apology statement the moment k-netz started calling her out. Every time Jn breaks this fantasy by showing them that she's not the bad girl they think she is her fans start lashing out and from Jn the savage she becomes the poor nini they need to coddle.

edit: When she posted those photos on IG of the outfit she used for her walk around Paris with V, her fans went crazy because she played exactly into that savage persona they built for her hence why it's still one of her most liked posts.

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  • Today at 5:51 AM
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wannayook said:

What if instead of Jennie it was Lady Gaga?
Do you think she will come out and write a letter of apology like this?
The differences
- She is not a role model for the youth.
-The western people who work with her have a voice to sue or protest inappropriate actions
If they don't, it means they accept this,maybe they are smokers too lol
Then seeing pictures and criticism will be different.

I think another thing that sets Gaga and Jennie apart (beside the obvious western/eastern thing) is that Gaga became big bc of her talent, not her looks. While Koreans think Jennie is talented, the biggest reason for her fame is her looks. Gaga got mocked for her looks her entire life, but people still respected her and saw her as an artist. When you're primarily known for your looks then people have higher expectations.

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ChubbyCC said:

Tbh Jennie definitely does care about her success in Korea. I don’t see her as someone that wants to be famous in the west only.

She has done multiple variety shows that flopped. And she always attends events in Korea. Doing a collab with Zico was very strategic.

Rose and Lisa are the ones that definitely want Western success. They barely try in their home country. And the only time we see them attend events are usually European or American events. The I-land 2 thing was the most I’ve seen Rose participate in something korean

Rose was on a South Korean variety show called Sea of Hope two years ago. Since then, she’s mainly focused on fashion stuff/Blackpink, and has been pretty low-key during the hiatus. It’s hard to say exactly how she’ll approach future promotions. So yes, she might have less attachment to the country compared to Jennie and Jisoo but I don't think the west is her only focus or that she will completely disregard the country or Asia as a whole.
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Theres something very gross about attacking people who assist a celebrity over the dumb decision the celebrity made.

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